Those georgeous big flakes. Love driving in them today.
the only thing I miss about the north. I hope dec is treating you well!!
Those georgeous big flakes. Love driving in them today.
the only thing I miss about the north. I hope dec is treating you well!!
No, I am hardwired to be attracted to the opposite sex. That is how the world survives. I could CHOOSE to be attracted to the same sex but then again I could also CHOOSE to commit murder and be an adulterer.
totally disagree
Do you choose to be a heterosexual?
The fact that you imply that you choose not to commit murder or be an adulterer, means that the thoughts have crossed your mind and that you have once had an urge to murder or commit adultery, same thing with saying that you choose not to be attracted to the same sex- that it was an option you considered.
I have never had the urge to murder someone. I have never found the thought cross my mind- “Gee, wouldn’t it just be peachy kin if I could kill another person right now? That would be just supergood”- same goes with adultery- “Yeah, cheating on my boyfriend sounds like a good idea, but I guess I won’t do it, ‘cause, y’know, it’s bad”. They’re not a choice for me- at best, they’re an unconscious choice. So the fact that you’re saying these things are a choice for you are kind of scary OP.
Also: true or false, you believe wild animals run on instinct and are wired to be a certain way? (i.e. they do the have conscious choices like humans?). If you believe the answer is true then why is the animal kingdom RAMPANT with homosexual acts if they’re supposed to be hard-wired to be straight and procreate? From everything to dominance to actual affection. I’m curious to know OP.Sure, I’ve thought about taking out a muslim extremist. I choose not to sin so I dont. I’ve never seen homo animals so I’ll have to research it before I take your word.
Here, I’ll help you research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviour
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Study_says_nearly_every_species_of_animal_engages_in_homosexual_behavior
http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/2008/07/animal_sex_its_not_just_for_re.php
Those are all non-biased links but if you wish to look up on your own, go for it C:
Also, you’ve admitted to saying that yes, you have considered murder an option when choosing not to murder, this also means you’re considering homosexuality as an option when choosing not to be homosexual. You’ve thought about being gay and just said “nah, that’s not for me”?
The fact that you’re choosing not to sin because you want to get into heaven- or worse, because you need a book or higher being to tell you not to- is kind self serving as well. I’m a fairly decent human being because the alternative means you’re a jerk. But I’m sure god will appreciate your reasons for not sinning. Just saying~I’m guessing you used Wiki because the sources listed below. Did you actually read any of those sources or since they fit your argument then they must be accurate? I don’t sin because I want to get into heaven, I don’t sin because I make the choice to follow God and do what he says is correct . .ie . . not sinning. I know I’m going there because I have received forgiveness and choose to live Christ like and by doing so I try to not sin. No, I never thought about wanting to mount some dude and sodomize him. Could I, well I guess I could think about it because it would be a choice. I don’t because my God gave me a natural attraction to women with the intent of reproduction which is what he has planned for our species. Due to that natural attraction I’m married and uphold the sanctity of marriage which goes back to Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.
Yes, he loves my reasons for wanting to grow closer to him by following his word and being the best Christian I can. For me that means I get to spend everlasting life with him. I guess if that’s being a Jerk in your eyes then so be it.
Yes, I have read the sources, and as I said you’re more than welcome to do your own research. I’ll even help you do that: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=homosexual+behavior+in+the+animal+kingdom . They aren’t all wikipedia, one is science blog, and both wiki articles provide links to other sites with supporting evidence. Homosexual behavior is evident in animals, who are hard wired.
And I never said you were a jerk sir, I just said I don’t “sin” because the alternative usually means that you are a jerk- stealing, lying, etc.. I don’t need a book to tell me what’s right and wrong. This is the point I was making.
Also, I LOVE that you used the Adam and Eve argument, because, here’s the thing. There’s examples of homosexuality in the bible:
“Ruth loved Naomi as Adam loved Eve” Ruth 1:14. It’s the same in Hebrew as well- which if you’re educated is the original languages of the old testament- though to be far in the Hebrew version it said “Ruth clung to [Naomi].” Ruth 1:14. This is the same word used in Genesis 2:24 to describe how Adam felt toward Eve. I invite you to look it up- whether it be on the internet or bible. The older the bible the better. I know in the King James version it says at one point “Ruth clave unto her.” clave being the same verb used by Adam to describe his love of Eve.
And there’s even an example of male love “David loved Jonathan more than women.” II Samuel 1:26. Not before you say it’s merely friendship David and Jonathan held think about this: if David and Jonathan’s relationship were to be between a man and a woman it would be acclaimed as one of the greatest love stories in the bible, but because it’s between a man and a man they can only be friends? Try replacing the name David with a female name, I guarantee it will allow you a new perspective on it.
There is also the fact that it does say “David loved Jonathan more than women.” He used the plural “women”. This means ANY woman-even women he may be attracted to or in love with. He doesn’t need to say “I love you as I love a woman.”- especially since, if David is gay, he would not love women in the way think he should, but instead loves Jonathan in this way. We are talking about loving a person more than you love and ENTIRE GENDER and everyone in it. David loves Jonathan more than women as a whole, as a gender. This means even if he is rampant heterosexual, he STILL feels more for David than he does about the gender he is attracted to. Not just some women or a woman. All women.
Even when the two first met, “When David had finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was bound to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Saul took him that day and would not let him return to his father’s house. Then Jonathan made a covenant with David, because he loved him as his own soul. Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that he was wearing, and gave it to David, and his armor, and even his sword and his bow and his belt.” (1 Samuel 18:1-4)
Replace the name “Jonathan” with a girls name. Imagine this says “The soul of Jonathan was bound to the soul of Jessica, and Jonathan loved her as his own.” Then, imagine that Jonathan gave all his precious possessions to her. It then becomes clearly and obviously a “love at first sight” scenario. But because it is between two men, you assume it can’t be anything more than friendship, when it so obviously is not. These mans very SOULS are bound to each other and they love each other as their own. They make a covenant together because they love each other so much, and Jonathan gives David the most precious things he has. The armor and weapons of a prince were important symbols of his power and status. He gave these things to David. If David were Jessica, you would be raving about what a romantic love story this is. But because he’s David, it’s just friendship?
Jesus even SAID some people were born gay: “For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” Mathew 19:12. Now, many modern day bibles replace the word “eunuchs” with the word “celibate” but this is an INCORRECT TRANSLATION. If you do your history homework- like every Christian should to better understand the text given to them- “born eunuch” was a phrase used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men. Now, why should it be important for us to understand the historical context of the bible’s original translation? I’m going to go ahead a quote a good friend on this “The meaning of words depends on context. Remember, the words of 1 Corinthians 11 also appear to require long hair and head coverings for all women in all circumstances. But, because we have studied the context, we know that is not what was meant. A text taken out of context is pretext. Let’s apply the same common-sense rule here.”
TL;DR well, that’s a shame, it would be supergood if you took the time and read it all.
I’m honestly impressed. It seems like you do your homework. I believe that they loved each other in a Godly way and were best friend and not as lovers in the verses you quoted. I believe, though don’t know, that you are not a Christian so you can not understand the love of a fellow brother or sister in christ. I also don’t believe that eunuchs was Jesus talking about gays but those that are celibate do to either being born that way and just never find a woman, something physically wrong or because they take a vow to be pure for Christ.
I believe at this current time that I will not change your ways and I know that you will never change my beliefs. Not only do I believe that being Gay is a choice but I also believe it is the downfall of society since I believe marriage and raising a family helps society become productive and move forward due to stopping many things that sex without love and multiple partners causes. Disease spread, hardship for families with children out of wedlock and in some cases murder by crazy people who are just pissed when they find out there lover is someone elses lover :) (last kinda a joke but not really a joking matter I guess)
I also don’t really care to debate because I have much better things to do. I care to debate when I feel like maybe I can help the person can come to Christ but I think someone else will possibly interact and lead you there but thank you for letting me share my point of view with you and I wish you nothing but the best.
I aplogize for reading and processing that I was a jerk, yes I’m glad you don’t do those things like kill since you don’t want to be a jerk. I don’t like being a jerk either but that is just part of why I don’t kill. I like your thought on that though, it actually makes me chuckle because that’s how simple it is in reality whether you believe in God or not . . stop being a jerk :)
So in parting I wish you well!
I like this a lot since they are supposed to interpret the Constitution and not have any bias towards a certain political party. No point in attending.
is kind of annoying. I posted that article about conspiracy theories from the Economist the other day on Facebook and now I just had to question my cousin’s sanity because she isn’t ready to give up on the theories about Obama’s birth certificate or Death Panels. …..ok.
I’m still waiting to see that birth certificate as well. Why not just show it if it’s so authentic? What’s the big secret? … maybe he’s not a US born natural citizen?
No, I am hardwired to be attracted to the opposite sex. That is how the world survives. I could CHOOSE to be attracted to the same sex but then again I could also CHOOSE to commit murder and be an adulterer.
totally disagree
Do you choose to be a heterosexual?
The fact that you imply that you choose not to commit murder or be an adulterer, means that the thoughts have crossed your mind and that you have once had an urge to murder or commit adultery, same thing with saying that you choose not to be attracted to the same sex- that it was an option you considered.
I have never had the urge to murder someone. I have never found the thought cross my mind- “Gee, wouldn’t it just be peachy kin if I could kill another person right now? That would be just supergood”- same goes with adultery- “Yeah, cheating on my boyfriend sounds like a good idea, but I guess I won’t do it, ‘cause, y’know, it’s bad”. They’re not a choice for me- at best, they’re an unconscious choice. So the fact that you’re saying these things are a choice for you are kind of scary OP.
Also: true or false, you believe wild animals run on instinct and are wired to be a certain way? (i.e. they do the have conscious choices like humans?). If you believe the answer is true then why is the animal kingdom RAMPANT with homosexual acts if they’re supposed to be hard-wired to be straight and procreate? From everything to dominance to actual affection. I’m curious to know OP.Sure, I’ve thought about taking out a muslim extremist. I choose not to sin so I dont. I’ve never seen homo animals so I’ll have to research it before I take your word.
Here, I’ll help you research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behaviour
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Study_says_nearly_every_species_of_animal_engages_in_homosexual_behavior
http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/2008/07/animal_sex_its_not_just_for_re.php
Those are all non-biased links but if you wish to look up on your own, go for it C:
Also, you’ve admitted to saying that yes, you have considered murder an option when choosing not to murder, this also means you’re considering homosexuality as an option when choosing not to be homosexual. You’ve thought about being gay and just said “nah, that’s not for me”?
The fact that you’re choosing not to sin because you want to get into heaven- or worse, because you need a book or higher being to tell you not to- is kind self serving as well. I’m a fairly decent human being because the alternative means you’re a jerk. But I’m sure god will appreciate your reasons for not sinning. Just saying~
I’m guessing you used Wiki because the sources listed below. Did you actually read any of those sources or since they fit your argument then they must be accurate? I don’t sin because I want to get into heaven, I don’t sin because I make the choice to follow God and do what he says is correct . .ie . . not sinning. I know I’m going there because I have received forgiveness and choose to live Christ like and by doing so I try to not sin. No, I never thought about wanting to mount some dude and sodomize him. Could I, well I guess I could think about it because it would be a choice. I don’t because my God gave me a natural attraction to women with the intent of reproduction which is what he has planned for our species. Due to that natural attraction I’m married and uphold the sanctity of marriage which goes back to Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve.
Yes, he loves my reasons for wanting to grow closer to him by following his word and being the best Christian I can. For me that means I get to spend everlasting life with him. I guess if that’s being a Jerk in your eyes then so be it.
No, I am hardwired to be attracted to the opposite sex. That is how the world survives. I could CHOOSE to be attracted to the same sex but then again I could also CHOOSE to commit murder and be an adulterer.
totally disagree
Do you choose to be a heterosexual?
The fact that you imply that you choose not to commit murder or be an adulterer, means that the thoughts have crossed your mind and that you have once had an urge to murder or commit adultery, same thing with saying that you choose not to be attracted to the same sex- that it was an option you considered.
I have never had the urge to murder someone. I have never found the thought cross my mind- “Gee, wouldn’t it just be peachy kin if I could kill another person right now? That would be just supergood”- same goes with adultery- “Yeah, cheating on my boyfriend sounds like a good idea, but I guess I won’t do it, ‘cause, y’know, it’s bad”. They’re not a choice for me- at best, they’re an unconscious choice. So the fact that you’re saying these things are a choice for you are kind of scary OP.
Also: true or false, you believe wild animals run on instinct and are wired to be a certain way? (i.e. they do the have conscious choices like humans?). If you believe the answer is true then why is the animal kingdom RAMPANT with homosexual acts if they’re supposed to be hard-wired to be straight and procreate? From everything to dominance to actual affection. I’m curious to know OP.
Sure, I’ve thought about taking out a muslim extremist. I choose not to sin so I dont. I’ve never seen homo animals so I’ll have to research it before I take your word.
No, I am hardwired to be attracted to the opposite sex. That is how the world survives. I could CHOOSE to be attracted to the same sex but then again I could also CHOOSE to commit murder and be an adulterer.
totally disagree
Do you choose to be a heterosexual?
So, if that is your view, how hard is it to understand that gays are hardwired different than you?
Because they are human. They are not some special species that are wired different then every other human. The only positive is that they can’t reproduce naturally (big key to the argument that the choice is wrong) which helps the population problem in the long run so I guess tree huggers might say that gays are good for the earth :)
Well, what makes you think that all humans are wired the same? Different people are attracted to different attributes that are “hardwired” in.
Because my God says thats the way it is. Pretty simple for me.
“God said so.” Why didn’t you just start out by saying that, it could have ended it right there. There’s no sense in logical arguments when a person believes something for illogical reasons.
Do you feel as strongly about people who eat shrimp as you do about people who are gay?
You can choose to believe that but you’ve know that from the start so why ask?
No, I am hardwired to be attracted to the opposite sex. That is how the world survives. I could CHOOSE to be attracted to the same sex but then again I could also CHOOSE to commit murder and be an adulterer.
totally disagree
Do you choose to be a heterosexual?
So, if that is your view, how hard is it to understand that gays are hardwired different than you?
Because they are human. They are not some special species that are wired different then every other human. The only positive is that they can’t reproduce naturally (big key to the argument that the choice is wrong) which helps the population problem in the long run so I guess tree huggers might say that gays are good for the earth :)
Well, what makes you think that all humans are wired the same? Different people are attracted to different attributes that are “hardwired” in.
Because my God says thats the way it is. Pretty simple for me.